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Kemadruma Yoga, Sakata yoga nd Kaalsarpa dosha

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Hi friends,
I am starting a thread on yogas that persist in a horo. I hope all the learned people will share their knowledge n experiences on Kemadruma yoga, Sakata Yoga nd kaalsarpa dosha. I would request the members nt to break this thread by asking any request 4 chart reading. I humbly request all the learneds to share their views and experience. Thanx to all who reply this post.
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  • Kemadruma
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    If moon is alone, doesn't have any planet before and after and also in front then it is Kemadruma.
    (For Example moon in 2nd house. 1st , 3rd and 8th house is empty.
    Rahu and Ketu are not actual planet and they do not cancel the yoga if they are in the above mentioned houses)

    If there is a planet in house opposite (7th house from moon), it not only cancels Kemadruma, but gives kalpadruma yoga (similar to neecha bhanga raja yoga.)

    Kemdruma gives trouble to mind. Since moon is mind and is alone it can be destructive. Many of the serial killers from the history have this yoga. It also makes the person very poor, mentally instable, gives inner fears, phobias, takes away happiness. It makes you do crimes of passion.

    But remember. Do not jump to conclusions. There are many conditions which cancels this yoga. Even if there's no planet as mentioned above, but Jupiter is in kendra and especially in Lagna, it nullifies the Kemadruma. Infact any benefic or functional benefic planet in Kendra is powerfull then you wont notice Kemadruma. But if kemadruma itself is in Kendra then it is very lethal.

    Shakata
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    If Jupiter is 6th or 8th from moon and IS NOT IN KENDRA FROM LAGNA then shakata yoga is formed.
    Many people jump to conclusion by the position of Jupiter only. One has to keep in mind that Jupiter must not be in Kendra (1st,4th,7th,10th house) If jupiter is in kendra, there is no Shakata yoga.

    Shakata means constant ups and downs in fortune
    • I would also like to share my own experience.
      I have both got canceled out.

      I have moon in 2nd. no planet in 1st and 3rd. But in 8th I have mercury which is dispositor of moon itself. I also have Jupiter in Kendra so I have never experienced Kemadruma in my life.
      But of course alone moon (i still dont have anything in 1st and 3rd) can increase fragility of mind. That I do accept. I am an overcautious person. And I always tend to worry too much.
      There is also another relation which should be considered very bad. There's Rahu with my moon which increases Jealousy, Anger (rather Rage)
      But my good luck, Rahu with Moon in 2nd with dispositor in 8th (house of secrets) always gives me secret money all the time (in addition to my stable income)
      I would also like to mention that since moon is alone and under effect of 8th house, it makes me very very secretive in nature, which I am.

      I also have Jupiter 6th from moon. But jupiter is in Kendra, so I have never experienced ups and downs in fortunes.
      • Unsu...
         
        Hi Indrajeet,
        Thanx a lot friend for ur detailed reply and sharing ur experience here. Plz throw some light on kaalsarpa dosha too. I am expecting detailed reply frm others too. I am telling here what i know abt kemadruma yoga. When there are no planets on both sides of the Moon, Kemadruma is formed. But there is distinct cancellation also if (a) the kendras from the Moon are occupied (b) kendras frm the Lagna are occupied.
        In Jataka Parijata, there are other kinds of Kemadruma Yogas too which are as follows:
        1. The Moon in Lagna or 7th but nt aspected by Jupiter.
        2. All the planets devoid of strength and less bindus in Ashtakvarga.
        3. The Moon in Scorpio Navamsa joining a malefic and aspected by Lagna lord.
        Hope replies frm others.
        • Kaalsarpa Yoga
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          - It is caused when all the planets are hemmed between Rahu and Ketu.
          - Rahu and Ketu are always opposite. For Example - If Rahu is in 1st house Ketu will be in 7th house
          - Now, in this example, if all of your planets are either in 1st to 7th or in 7th to 12th, it means KaalSarpa Yoga

          There are total 12 types of this yoga for 12 possible combinations of Rahu & Ketu's placement, affecting each area of life

          The general effect is delay in every important event of life. Becoming target of conspiracy. Delays or problems in marriage etc.

          There is a vidhi to be done so that this yoga can be nullified or atleast the effect can be reduced
      • Indrajeet,

        On Kemadruma yoga, you said:

        "moon is alone, doesn't have any planet before and after and also in front then it is Kemadruma.
        (For Example moon in 2nd house. 1st , 3rd and 8th house is empty.
        Rahu and Ketu are not actual planet and they do not cancel the yoga if they are in the above mentioned houses)"


        My understanding of K Yoga is that it is present when there are no anapha, sunapha or durudhara yogas to the Moon, THEN alleviating factors/cancellation factors are planets in kendras from the Moon, in 1st, 4th, 7th, 10th; if not then to the lagna, to the Moon in the navamsa; then aspects from benefics. It is very rare not to have any of these factors. Also the brightness of the Moon has a lot to do with it, it can seriously take away a lot of the negativity of this yoga.
        The planets in kendra show where the native is getting support from/feel strength ( 4: home/ 7: partner /10: action) - but would still feel some loneliness at times.

        I'm not aware of the 8th house factor - where does that come from?

        Kemandruma yoga is not that uncommon. The Moon being the mind, it's the expectations of the mind in that case, expecting no or little support and feeling lonely; it can disrupt life and give bouts of poverty.

        I do have K yoga, plus Rahu with Moon, Moon in Aquarius, the depositor is DB - and no planets in Kendra in the Rashi. Some may think it's very bad but nope. I relate to the poverty and the loneliness and feeling lack of support and I'm also very sensitive. But my mind is very strong and grounded. ( My Mo is vargottama in Nav.; in Rashi Mo in Shatabishka ruled by Rahu, and sitting with its Nakshatra despositor, Rahu, co-ruler of Aqu. so that might be what's helfpul, plus Mo in 3rd, and as a Sag, Mo is lord of 8th so there must be an expectation of transformation, going through stuff, etc, right?! - ? ).

        "There is also another relation which should be considered very bad. There's Rahu with my moon which increases Jealousy, Anger (rather Rage) "
        I think that might have to do with the sign the Moon is in - like Mars perhaps? I have Mo in Saturn's sign and I don't relate at all to anger, rage, jealousy...


        Another thing, you said:

        "If there is a planet in house opposite (7th house from moon), it not only cancels Kemadruma, but gives kalpadruma yoga (similar to neecha bhanga raja yoga.) "

        This is not my understanding of Kalpadruma yoga, which is a very rare and very beneficial yoga - according to S.Rath's teachings.
        But there might be a few with the same name.
        Here's a something I found on Kaladruma yoga, (the one I do know!) the conditions and examples in practice:

        www.brahman-parivar.org/ver3/k...uma.php

        A.
      • Unsu...
         
        I have never felt Kemdruma in my horoscope. I do not have any planet before or after moon or even 7th from moon. Also my Jupiter is not in kendra. I have always been happy and social and my friends call me very optimistic and good humored.

        lagna -capricorn-ketu
        5th house-taurus- moon
        7th-cancer-mars, rahu
        9th-virgo-mercury, saturn, jupiter, sun
        10th-libra-Venus
        • V

          There are no planets in Kendra from your Moon but there are two in Kendra from the lagna. Neither the Moon nor Jupiter are in Kendra but they're in 5th and 9th houses - not just any kind of house. The Moon is exalted in Taurus and aspected by a benefic; also its depositor is strong in its own house. ( This Moon gives you a good mind for studying actually.) There's also the Navamsha to take into account.

          Lucky you if you can say it's all positive....
          • 1. What is the effect of Kemadruma yoga -
            is it poverty,
            is it feeling lonley,
            is it financial strain thorough life,
            or does it mean the person will work for the betterment of others -
            more concerned for others than himself ( Mahathma Gandhi)


            2. If it is modified by the presence of any planet in the 7th how it effect
            How about if is in trines from the langna


            3. what if in navamsha moon is alone




            • " 1. What is the effect of Kemadruma yoga -
              is it poverty,
              is it feeling lonley,
              is it financial strain thorough life, "

              This is what I know.


              " or does it mean the person will work for the betterment of others -
              more concerned for others than himself ( Mahathma Gandhi) "

              This condition I am not aware of - what's the source?


              " 2. If it is modified by the presence of any planet in the 7th how it effect
              How about if is in trines from the langna "

              Any planet other than the Sun and the nodes in Kendra from Moon is best, then if not, from lagna.


              " 3. what if in navamsha moon is alone "

              Yogas to the Moon would have a cancellation factor.
              • Sorry: Yogas to the Moon in Navamsha would be part of the cancellation factors, so if not it's just ruled out.

                The brightest the Moon the better.
                • " or does it mean the person will work for the betterment of others -
                  more concerned for others than himself ( Mahathma Gandhi) "

                  This condition I am not aware of - what's the source?


                  Answer: i have seen 2 ppl who where very interested in social work, irrespective
                  of the income (income was less) had great plans to work for - others - where spending a few hrs a week for NGO voluntary service -
                  yah true i had not analysed more -
                  so i wanted to know if any one else have see this

                  in navamsha can we read kemadruma yoga? ie if moon has not planet on 12 and 2nd but has on 7th from - moon is it kemdruma and if rashi as how it effect is it strengthened
                  If it is modfied how does each planet play a role
                  if it is jup
                  if itis mars
                  if it is mercury
                  if it is rahu
                  if itis sun
                  if it is venus
                  • This is the maximum depth. Additional responses will not be threaded.
                    " have seen 2 ppl who where very interested in social work, irrespective
                    of the income (income was less) had great plans to work for - others - where spending a few hrs a week for NGO voluntary service -
                    yah true i had not analysed more -
                    so i wanted to know if any one else have see this "

                    Since I have not, personally, picked up this factor from reliable/classic sources, then it is not a condition, in my opinion.
                    But then it is true that when you've experienced having less and feeling lonely, if you're "evolved" enough not to turn bitter & selfish, then you'd want others not to be feeling the same and so the person can be more aware and able to do good with the right mind-set.
                    Usually though I would think there are strong factor to indicate social work/humanitarian work in the chart.

                    " in navamsha can we read kemadruma yoga? "

                    All I know is that we can look for cancellation factors for the Kemandruma yoga in the Rashi, by checking the conditions the Moon is in, in the Navamsha.
                    I'd say you can state all the different yogas in the different vargas but they're not as powerful as in the rashi, more likely they back up what's in the rashi or the opposite.

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