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Exhaltation vs Mooltrikona vs Own House

topic posted Sat, December 27, 2008 - 2:28 PM by  Chakora
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All...

May be a basic question but somehow I feel I lack total clarity in the difference of behavior in these 3 states.
Why is a planet exhalted in another house than his own? What is Mool Trikona/

Thanks
C
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Chakora
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  • Re: Exhaltation vs Mooltrikona vs Own House

    Mon, December 29, 2008 - 12:03 AM
    The way I see it is moulded a little but by the concept of 'marana sthana'.
    This is by mapping it to the house aspect governed by the house numbers in the Kal Purush kundli...

    For ex :

    1. Ketu debilitates in Gemini (more popular acceptance) which is the 3rd house from Aries; 3rd house governs Sexual copulation, stamina and courage among other things... Ketu the ascetic, the epitome of worldly detachment, finds such associations repulsive and is not happy. But it is said to acquire exaltation in the 9th bhava of Sagi, the house of Dharma, spiritual learning and doctrination, because of obvious presumptions of 'no bonds'.
    2. Venus debilitates in the 6th house of Kanya - a house governing aspects such as enemies, competition, worries, anxiety among other things... not a comfortable house for a luxury loving, plant of love, beauty and comforts... ( also a house governed by a child planet - Venus among other things represents youth and therefore doesn't boast of experience in child grooming ;) - maybe wrongly worded but I hope you understand that 'responsibility' is painstakingly better avoided' ). It exalts in the 12 th house of Pisces - a water sign, mystical and comforting... 12th house governing bed pleasures and futile expenses (read luxury, vanity etc.).
    3. Jupiter the know-it-all planet faces weakness when it has to listen to a boss or a father figure - as in the 10th house of Capricorn - governed by the tough task master Saturn! But in turn exalts in the expansive 4th house of Bandhu - heart, close friends, family, mother , property...
    4. Mars the warrior planet exalts in the 10th house of Karma - it is also said that having a strong, benvolent 10th house Mars signifies a Karma yogi - though in the house ruled by Saturn , it learns to grow by hard work and a great many 'leaders' are said to be 'willing to learn'... It debilitates in the house that governs comforts among other things - the Bandhu bhava - Cancer, a water sign ruled by the Moon adds greater discomfort to this feiry planet!
    5. Saturn and Sun exchange thier debilitation and exaltation houses - Saturn hates to be in Aries - the 1st house that governs the Ego and the Individual - because it is a planet that teaches once humility and service... exalts in the 7th house of Yuvati - spouse or partnerships - where it is important to dilute your sense of self and ego to be of greater service... Sun hates to co-operate... it is the ultimate symbol of the Individual - the king of the Solar panel... and in the sign of Tula ruled by Venus - it may burn the goodness in marriage - as the Ego is always infamous of doing...


    etc etc...

    Please let me know your ideas and correct me if am wrong ...
    Thanks !
    • Re: Exhaltation vs Mooltrikona vs Own House

      Mon, December 29, 2008 - 3:23 AM
      Hi Sudha,
      Very nice and informative post. I'll try to give some intuitive understanding of why planets are exalted in their respective places.

      We see from Aries, as it is the first house of the Zodiac.

      SUN - Being the Lord of the 5th house, should be happy at 1,4,5,7,9,10. Sun has directional strength at 10, but this is owned by Saturn. Sun represents Soul, and Soul represents the first house, so Sun is exalted in 1st house, which is Mars house and is also a Fiery sign.

      SATURN - Being the Lord of 10 and 11. Saturn has directional strength in 7th, Libra, also the house of Venus and an Airy Sign. Note that Saturn owns an Airy Sign. Also Saturn would like to do the opposite of what Sun does. So the exaltation is opposite. Lets look at other possible options. 1st house (No, Sun is exalted and also owned by Mars), 3 (possible) ,4 (No owned by Moon), 5( No owned by Sun), 6 (possible), 9 (No owned by Jup), 10 (possible, own sign), 11 (possible, own sign). I included all the Kendra, Konas and the Upachaya houses as Saturn owns a Kendra and Upachaya.

      JUPITER - Owns 9 and 12, the houses of religious duty and Moksha. Possible options, 1,4,5,9,10. Directional Strength in 1st house, but Sun is exalted there. 9 is own house. 10 owned by Saturn. Strong candidates are 4 and 5, owned by Moon and Sun. Note that Capricorn represents cremation and Guru is everything but that. So, the exact opposite Cancer is reasonable for Jupiter.

      VENUS - Owns 2 and 7, Maraka houses, 12th Lord can be considered as a Maraka planet. It fits well that Venus is exalted in 12th. I already mentioned about the 7/12 combination in a previous post. 7th Lord in 12th makes a person oversexed, and Venus strongly represents that matter. However for an Aries and Scorpio native, this not be true, as Venus is exalted or in own house for these natives when placed in 12th. It could greatly help in spirituality.

      MARS - Owns 1 and 8. Directional Strength in 10th. Possible choices for exaltation 1,4,5,7,8,9,10,12. Mars, owns a mysterious house Scorpio, which is hidden and deals with underground layers. Nothing represents hidden better than Capricorn which stands for cremation. Mars would also like 12th, a hidden house and owned by friend Jupiter. But Pisces is too spiritual for his liking.

      MERCURY - Owns 3 and 6. Possible choices, 3,6,8,10,11,12. I think that Aquarius would have been the ideal position for exaltation. Being an airy sign, owned by friend Saturn. Also being 11th an Upachaya house. However, 6th own house is been taken as the house of exaltation, which I am not sure why.

      MOON - Owns 4. Possible choices, 1,4,5,7,9,10. 1(No, represents Mind and not the Soul), 4 (possible, own house), 5 (yes, owned by Sun), 9 (very favourable, Jupiter's house), 10 (No, Saturn owned). However, Moon is exalted in 2nd. This seems driven more by its point of debility. Moon would not like to be hidden, i.e., 3, 6, 8, 12, Scorpio, Capricorn. 8th which deals with hidden matters, planets in 8th are considered being hidden, also 8th here is Scorpio. So it appears that Moon is weakest here, making the opposite Taurus its exaltation. I think 9th (Sagittarius) would have been a better option for exaltation.

      NODES- It is considered that Rahu is exalted in Taurus and Gemini, and Ketu in Scorpio and Sagittarius. As Ketu owns Scorpio and Pisces, I think it is more appropriate that Ketu should be exalted in 9th house which is Jupiter's house, as Ketu is the most spiritual planet, this would make Rahu exalted in Mercury.
      Regards,

      Rajesh
      • Re: Exhaltation vs Mooltrikona vs Own House

        Mon, December 29, 2008 - 2:18 PM
        Chakora,

        All three relate to dignity - giving good dignity - which is a very important consideration.
        Each planet owns two houses (except Mo & Su) and of the two one is better, that's the Moolatrikona one. Moolatikona is the masculine sign always which is considered to give a more active sort of energy - as opposed to the feminine signs, more passive, this is the own house dignity.
        Therefore a planet in its Moolatrikona sign has its innate qualities readily available.
        Exaltation is highest dignity but it's a wild card, you just don't know how far this planet is going to take the person; whereas Moolatrikona is more balanced. For instance debilitation at the other end of the spectrum, is the lowest dignity. But debilitation is tricky as it can seem all bad but can bestow great results under certain conditions. Exaltation and Debilitation are always going to be noticeable, but for the results we need scrutiny.
        Sometimes planets have one and same sign for Moolatrikona and Exaltation (Mo, Su, Me) that's when you need to look closely at the degrees the planet is in. Degrees are always important - for Moolatrikona, Exaltation and Debilitation, as it only happens in certain degrees of a sign.
        • Re: Exhaltation vs Mooltrikona vs Own House

          Tue, December 30, 2008 - 10:09 AM
          Attikka,
          Own House and MT are sort of makes the Planet Happy Always(mostly).
          Exalted/Debilitated Planet is said to behave according to the dignity of the dispositor. How does it work here? And why is it so?

          Sudha/Rajesh.
          How does this concept of Ex/Deb planets behaving according to the Position of dispositor correlate with the reason why a planet is exalted in a specific house?

          Thanks
          C
          • Re: Exhaltation vs Mooltrikona vs Own House

            Tue, December 30, 2008 - 11:16 AM
            Hi Chakora,

            "Own House and MT are sort of makes the Planet Happy Always(mostly)."
            Yes you are right own house and MT are good for a planet, it's at home and can fulfill its agenda.

            "Exalted/Debilitated Planet is said to behave according to the dignity of the dispositor. How does it work here? And why is it so? "
            Ex. and DB is first case, in a great friend's sign and second case, in a great enemy's sign. Of course the planet in either case DEPENDS on its dispositor because the planet is not in its own house, so can't solely rely on itself!!

            Places of Ex. and DB have to have the nature of the planet in question and the ruler of that sign in deep agreement or disagreement accordingly. For ex. Saturn gets DB in Aries owned by Mars. Saturn is like an old man, rigid, conservative and slow, whereas Mars is like a young boy, full of beans and new ideas - the two "natures" don't go well together. Saturn will have a hard time trying to adjust to Aries fast pace and desire of novelty. :)
            • Re: Exhaltation vs Mooltrikona vs Own House

              Tue, December 30, 2008 - 8:15 PM
              Attika,

              You have come to my exact point of confusion, when I correlate the Planet Characteristics and the Characteristics of its Ex Dispositor I am a little lost.

              1. While Saturn is so uncomfortable in Aries, why is Mars exalted in Capricorn? I somehow felt that the Results of a "Aggressive and Action Oriented" Planet in a "Responsibility and Structure Oriented" planets house will create the best results for the subject. Meaning Moderation against going overboard. Venus in Pisces fits. Even Moon in Taurus fits. To certain extent Saturn in Libra.
              2. But somehow lot of others are not matching. For example Sun and Mars.. doesn't cause total lack of moderation but can cause the person to go real awry.
              3. I am also little confused by Mercury and Jupiter.

              Or is it that I am actually going in a tangent.
              Thanks
              C
              • Re: Exhaltation vs Mooltrikona vs Own House

                Sun, January 4, 2009 - 9:34 AM
                Hi Chakora,

                Well then, you have Venus exalted in Pisces, sign of Jupiter, while Venus doesn't do very well in the other water signs and while Jupiter and Venus are enemies..................
                But Venus in Pisces represents highest devotion and compassion, and Jupiter and Venus are both gurus.

                I'm ok with Mars exalted in Cap and Saturn DB in Aries. I would say that Mars is the zealous little soldier and in the 10th house of the zodiac is not afraid to work hard and get the job done.
                ""Aggressive and Action Oriented" - action-orientated, definitely. Mars likes to have goals and something to achieve. In Cap it's about hard work and getting things done. But aggressive, I don't know about that. It would certainly have a lot of energy to spare, but I would rather think it can utilize it for something good.
                • Re: Exhaltation vs Mooltrikona vs Own House

                  Sun, January 4, 2009 - 9:55 AM
                  Attika :

                  " I would say that Mars is the zealous little soldier and in the 10th house of the zodiac is not afraid to work hard and get the job done. "

                  ... And Jupiter is not considered good in the 10th for reasons which sound like... because it is a (lazy) learned planet and doesn't like to be disciplined or taught lessons. It doesn't stand for humility, I presume?
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                    Re: Exhaltation vs Mooltrikona vs Own House

                    Sun, January 4, 2009 - 10:21 AM
                    Hi Sudha,

                    You did a good explanation up above but personally I have no experience using the 10th for boss, authority or guru, only the 9th - and Jupiter would listen to those, if you consider the 9th. He is the advisor of the king after all.
                    I think Jupiter is uncomfortable in Cap because it's earth, tamas and Jupiter is sattvic and rules ether - two opposites. Saturn goes for the practical and Jupiter for the mystical, the philosophical. Out of sync here.
                    And I wouldn't go as far as calling Jupiter lazy, but rather us humans are lazy :)
                    I think Jupiter's high optimism and faith gets dramatically reduced when close to Saturn, because Saturn's influence wants us to learn the hard way only. Cap is more of a down-to-earth sign, ready to do all the heavy karma stuff. But if Jupiter can bestow materially in Cap apparently.
                    Jupiter and Saturn are both karaka for the 10th house - Jupiter for growth of prosperity and Saturn for all works & actions.
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    Re: Exhaltation vs Mooltrikona vs Own House

    Mon, January 5, 2009 - 10:43 PM
    The nodes are a bit confusing, as Parasara clearly states that nodes dont have a nature or power of their own, but instead behave according to the strength of the planet governing the house a node is situated in. For example Rahu in Virgo is considered to be in own house, but will it give good results if Mercury is debilitated or say situated in Scorpio with Mars? Another aspect to exaltation, mooltrikona and own house is that exaltation happens only for certain degrees within the exaltation houses and not across all 30 degrees.

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